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Talking Point / Talking Point - Council Budget
Talking Point - Council Budget
Wednesday 9th December 2009

On the day that the chancellor is set to deliver his pre-budget report, it's been announced that Test Valley Borough Council has another huge gap in their finances.

Savings of nearly £1 million will need to be found next year and they've said they'll face some difficult choices.

In January, Andover Sound revealed that the council had a £2 million gap in their budget and would need to shed staff to plug it.

The situation isn't quite that bad this time but the £856,000 deficit is a big concern.

It means car parking could cost us more - long-term prices will stay the same but short-term's set to go up.

Meanwhile Borough Councillors will see a drop in their allowances of 1.4%.

Council Leader, Councillor Ian Carr, says:  "There's no doubt that we continue to face major financial challenges.  We must constantly review the impact of the economic climate on our plans and proposals.  The Local Government Finance Settlement is expected to be remain as proposed in 2008, but this won't be confirmed until January, which brings a very unwelcome degree of uncertainty.  

"New pressures have also arisen, such as the reduction in anticipated income from Planning Application fees, Building Control income, Local Strategic Partnership partner contributions, pest control treatments and liquor licences.

"But we haven't increased parking charges since 2008 and this year we will aim to keep increases to short-term parking charges to a minimum, with long-term parking charges unchanged.  It will still be cheaper to park in Test Valley than in many neighbouring areas.

The Council are proposing an 80p cost to leave a car for an hour, with charges for 4 hours going up by 20p to £2.60.

Councillor Carr also says they've taken the decision to cut the amount of allowances that can be given to representatives: "While contributions towards the cost of being a Councillor are essential to be sure that as many people as possible can have the option take on the role, we have concluded that [reducing allowances] is the right step in this climate."

The Cabinet will get copies of the revised budget report at a meeting on December 16th, with the final update being given in February, before it has has to be recommended by the full Council.

The council relies heavily on investment income and with interest rates staying low it's set to be a testing 2010 for Test Valley.

What's your reaction to news that parking could go up in price? Is it right that councillor's allowances could come down. Leave your thoughts below.

 
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
18:31  on  Wednesday 16th December 2009
"There are other places in town that would be good for a restaurant Robin. The problem with the current financial climate is that any business is going to struggle which may be why Prezzo's decided to not come to town. I do think Mr Carr should announce the choice we have "waiting in the wings", unless of course it was just made up in a panic. Surely not ;)"
 
 
Robin Toates of Luggershall says:
23:17  on  Sunday 13th December 2009
"Sarah thers halls allover andover lick king arthers way hall river way hall. wots rong wiv dem ? thers st mickals church hall st maryes hall, plenty in andover. i want prezo hear cuz ther a gud restrant nd im fed up wiv waysting my taxis on the empty giuld hall. if not prezo then i wuld lick 2 c nandos"
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
16:03  on  Sunday 13th December 2009
"I'd also add to that Sarah, if TVBC had promoted the Guidhall properly then it would have been used more. Also think that the figures they used to "sell it off" were misleading and should be looked into."
 
 
Sarah of Andover says:
17:59  on  Saturday 12th December 2009
"Robin - I'm not sure the coffee shops in Andover would be very happy to put on musical events, jumble sales, meetings etc in order to raise funds for community groups and charities - and there is no way that some of the most vulnerable people in our community could afford the coffee shop prices - they would be hard pushed to raise money for the many good causes like that wouldn't they.... That is why most towns and villages have a community / village hall "
 
 
Robin Toates of Luggershall says:
17:28  on  Saturday 12th December 2009
"i'm shure they culd all meet in the manny cofee shops in town sarah. 2 hav my taxis waysted 4 the giuldhal 2 b used not often is a wayst of monney"
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
08:19  on  Saturday 12th December 2009
"Robin in that case please accept my apologies as it appeared to be text speak. As Sarah points out it was because the Guildhall was never promoted by TVBC that it was empty and yes something needed to be done about it. Along with a lot of others I feel they went about it the wrong way and I believe it emerged sometime after the deal had been done that the figures the council used were not entirely accurate regards the apparent losses it was making. That's why I feel there should be an independant review into it."
 
 
Sarah of Andover says:
21:41  on  Friday 11th December 2009
"Robin, there is no denying the Guildhall is and was underused, but that is because the council did not have a budget for promoting it and many do not know that you can get married upstairs, let alone how you go about booking it. However plenty of people did use it to meet, raise money for charity and hold community events. There are plenty of empty buildings in Andover we should be trying to build on what we have and fill the empty buildings. Community halls across the country contribute to community life and bring people together - every town and village needs somewhere for the community to meet."
 
 
Robin Toates of Luggershall says:
21:10  on  Friday 11th December 2009
"Alan i went 2 markway schoool nd have a little dissability in speling nd maffs. i hope yer not poacking fun of it cuz i have a dissability ? Im not ashaymd of it. the giuldhall was sold of cuz no1 used it. evry time i went past ther wer may b a few odd old peeple using it 4 having cups of t. I fink the counsill got it rite nd want it used rite."
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
00:03  on  Friday 11th December 2009
"No Robin I don't agree. I think getting rid of Gormless Brown is a good idea but to think getting rid of one man will suddenly make our councils run better is laughable. Regards the Iraqui taxi driver comment, it appears we enetered the war in Iraq based on claims by a taxi driver about WMD's - incorrect information used to make a case that wasn't real. I think the Guildhall was "sold off" based on incorrect information being given out as well. Could you also let us know how you manage to text your messages in?"
 
 
Robin Toates of Luggershall says:
21:20  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"Allan wot has a iraqui taxi driver got 2 do wiv this serous debait ? if we vote of gordon brown we wuldnt b in this sitchewashun! hes the problem wiv dis countrie, get rid of him nd our councels will run beter agree?"
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
18:03  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"Not under Talking Point but more info here on Andover Sound **** http://www.andoversound.com/pages/extranet/council-budget-gap-i-4228.php ****"
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
17:55  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"George Bush was democratically elected twice (okay maybe the once democratically) - didn't make it a good choice though did it ;)"
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
17:53  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"Just goes to show Rob, you can fool all of the people...ah no wait. Only 29.8% of the people in Mr Carr's ward voted for him in 2007 which means that 70.2% didn't want him (going on how the town council vote seems to be being seen in certain quarters). It still remains that the current council and it's leader made the decision about the Guildhall and it is now costing us money. And I for one am not sure how accurate the original figures were that they tried selling it on. Apparently rumours that they were given by an Iraqi taxi driver are unfounded ;)"
 
 
Rob of Andover says:
15:44  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"It's funny how people talk about TVBC and Cllr Carr as though they took over the town in some sort of coup. I thought the councillors and Mr Carr were democratically elected by the people of Andover in 2007."
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
13:21  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"Mmmm not sure how that works out that the people that voted for a town council have made us suddenly have a deficit Rob, bearing in mind it's only just been agreed. Wasn't it Mr Carr and TVBC that made people vote twice for it, thereby costing more money? Wasn't it Mr Carr and TVBC that have lost us money on the Guildhall and Prezzo issue? Wasn't it due to their actions over things like the Guildhall and the Bandstand that people said they were sick of these people not listening and wanted a change?"
 
 
Rob of Andover says:
11:56  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"I feel I must correct Paul and Alison. I think you'll find it's neither Cllr Carr or TVBC who wanted the town council but the 51% of the tiny minority of the population of Andover that bothered to vote, so to blame them for this waste of council tax payers money is wrong. "
 
 
Robin Toates of Luggersall says:
11:53  on  Thursday 10th December 2009
"nd i bet our counsil tax will go up cuz of dis! Its blassphamuss discusting nd im fed up wiv peeps paying for nuffin! get gordon brown out"
 
 
Alison of Andover says:
17:32  on  Wednesday 9th December 2009
"How is it that the council have a deficit now but only a few weeks ago urged people to vote for Andover to have a "Parish Council" to become a Borough Council in the future. Who is paying for the councillors to have an extravagent lifestyle on that committee? It meanst eh everyday person will have to pay for that int eh lng run again."
 
 
kevin of Penton Mewsey says:
17:02  on  Wednesday 9th December 2009
"3 words....Carr must go!!"
 
 
Alan Resident of Andover says:
14:58  on  Wednesday 9th December 2009
"Maybe if Mr Carr and TVBC had sorted out the Guildhall / Prezzo issue that would have saved some money?"
 
 
Janet of Andover says:
13:24  on  Wednesday 9th December 2009
"Perhaps the Council could start by not replacing the skip full of furniture which was at the side of the Council Offices this morning. I hope these are not going to landfill - that costs us money too! And the car parking charges proposed mean I will be walking to town more often, thus reducing the Council's income further. 80p might be cheaper than elsewhere, but the shopping is generally MUCH better!"
 
 
Peter of Andover says:
13:06  on  Wednesday 9th December 2009
"Mr Carr strikes again, will this man ever stop, he is killing this town with his never thought out plans.How much longer can Andover survive with him in charge."
 
 
Paul of Andover says:
12:16  on  Wednesday 9th December 2009
"More cuts! increase parking costs, and a Town Council that will cost us all many 100's of thousands of pounds, I think a job well done Mr Carr!........."
 
 
unemployed person of Andover says:
09:58  on  Wednesday 9th December 2009
"A 1.4% pay cut isen't too bad, I am sure that they can afford to loose a little, unlike one company in Andover, the work force has had to take a 9 1/2% pay cut to secure their future employment??? let us all hope that things will improve for all our sakes in 2010."
 
 
 
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